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The only person as stupid as Sanders is “JewishFailPlan”
Communist fucking Jews running America, prepare for the pain because it’s gonna get worse
Screw the rest of you. I care not to pay for your good health. I am suppose to be free and that means of choice as well. I would not make the choice to spend my hard earned money on you. It is theft and against the Constitution.
@avebabe
Appeal to Etymology, the etymology of a word has no bearing on the position of one who uses the word; if anything, I should simply purport to be a progressive here. I could just as easily call myself a ‘happinessist’ and say that if you support the state, you are against happiness; this is, of course, fallacious.
@avebabe
Of course businesses will profit more if more people are sick, but how is that relevant? Remember, if they intentionally make people get sick, they are criminals in an anarchist society for initiating force or fraud.
Perhaps it does grant everyone treatment, but in a free market, almost everybody would be able to afford healthcare as well; the high prices today are a result of regulations. Better yet, the healthcare would be of higher quality and would not necessitate theft.
@avebabe
You’re making the assumption that regulation substantially lowers prices. The reality is that regulations reduce competition by creating barriers to entry, giving the paucity of remaining healthcare companies the capability to raise prices without worrying as much about competing businesses undercutting them. In the system I advocate, if a company stopped caring about increasing profits and raised their prices, they’d lose all of their customers to competitors who charged less.
As an anarchist, i guess you’re against progressivism as well.. Meaning you’re against society making any forward progress.
So what you’re saying is that we should eliminate regulation so that all insurance companies will be making so much money, they wont have any incentive to be penny pinchers which will drive down prices..
Keeping the healthcare system as a business incentive merely keeps America’s health (or lack of) a loss of ‘profit’. Socialized Medicine is just promising the right for treatment unanimously.
let’s go Bernie!
I’d like to add that the primary reason for which I advocate free markets (and consequently, anarchy) is not the utilitarian justifications which I give here, but it is the argument that taxation is theft. Since the universal healthcare system (AND the fascist American model) is funded via taxation, i.e. theft, I reject it.
I definitely wouldn’t deny that the American system is a disaster, but I’m simply suggesting an alternative solution. Right now, costs are high because corporations buy politicians, who enact regulations to restrict competition, creating near-monopolistic conditions, where the prices can be increased. The solution is to eliminate the regulations, so competition can drive the prices down.
Also, it’s worth noting that most of those who are uninsured can afford it, but choose not to.
We’ve pretty much become a country who has become comfortable telling the needy to fuck off. The entire metropolitan of where I live is a reflection of it
@ICTN218 These are lives we are talking about, leave the free market out of it. I’m from Detroit, and A LOT of people in the area need this. In a place with enough problems of its own, people are being crippled (pun intended) economically by simply trying to be able to afford their medication.. Medication that is being sold at a fraction of the cost in other places (like cuba.) All while there is a sensationally high number of people who cant afford insurance who are just screwed
@avebabe
It’s fallacious to argue that we should adopt a system because all other industrialized countries have it (specifically, the Ad Populum fallacy). While socialized medicine is probably better than the American system, which is essentially fascist, a free market system is greatly superior to the socialized model, and worked well before the 60′s, when the corporations bought the politicians, and the system.
P.S. I’m not a republican, nor am I a democrat, I’m an anarchist.
Work and effort gives way to progress? Hardly. Sometimes, work and effort gives way to minimum wage and a job with no prospects. Sometimes, absolutely no effort gives way to managing a large corporation (or inheriting it). It has nothing to do with work and effort. Quite often the bottom end jobs are much harder, and much less pleasant, than the top end ones. Work and effort does not automatically equal progress and income. That’s the main issue here. Capitalism is far from perfect.
Should food and clothing be fundamental? How about housing? If healthcare is fundamental shouldn’t these things be as well? No, because we live in society where work and effort give way to progress, income and stability. More people have been helped through the charity of the free market than ever were helped through any form of socialized government.